THE CHURCH MILITANT - BELEAGUERED BY BERGOGLIANISM

I couldn't fit another item into my Hellgate post above, so I have to start a new one... And I must apologize to Mr. Neumayr whose early 2017 book
THE POLITICAL POPE I forgot all about when recounting earlier the anti-Bergoglio books that had been written in the past two years alone.

The Pope's 'casual Friday'
Whatever Christ is 'saving' mankind from,
it is not hell, according to this pope
by George Neumayr
AMERICAN SPECTATOR
Macrh 30, 2018

As Catholics headed into the holiest days of the year, they woke up to the headline, “Hell Does Not Exist, Says Pope Francis.” In an interview with the Italian journalist Eugenio Scalfari, Pope Francis declared that the unrepentant don’t suffer in hell but simply “disappear.”

As usual, the Vatican is tamping down the remark’s controversy not by conceding the unreliability of the pope as a teacher of the faith but by questioning the reliability of the journalist. Scalfari’s report is not a “faithful transcription” of the pope’s comments, said the Vatican. Never mind that the pope has made the exact same comment before.

As I wrote last year in The Political Pope, “While saying confidently that atheists can go to heaven, he has flirted with theological concepts suggesting that no one goes to hell. The wicked, he told an Italian interviewer, don’t suffer ‘punishment’ but ‘annihilation,’ which means ‘their journey is finished.’”

As I document in the book, Francis delights in that kind of spit-balling, subversive, dilettantish heterodoxy. In Scalfari, a Catholic turned atheistic communist, Francis found his Boswell. The pope has given him at least five major interviews and thought so highly of the first one he had the Vatican publishing house include it in one of its books.

The pope obviously doesn’t care if Scalfari reproduces their conversations from his notes or memory; the pope has never corrected a single one of his “reconstructions,” as the Vatican dismissively described them on Thursday.

The Scalfari interviews, if anything, are a great resource for anyone who wants to know the real thoughts of the pope. They are just two old lefties letting it all hang out. At one of their first meetings, Francis told Scalfari not to listen to the “solemn nonsense” of Catholic evangelists.

The spectacle of a pope [himself an undeclared and unacknowledged apostate!] confirming a Catholic turned atheist in his apostasy charmed Scalfari to no end. “The most surprising thing he told me was: ‘God is not Catholic,’” he gushed afterwards. [I think the exact translation of what Scalfari said Bergoglio said was "There is no Catholic God".]

Ever since, Scalfari has been championing Francis as a post-Christian pope perfectly in tune with the modern zeitgeist - a description that the pope hasn’t challenged but found flattering. When Scalfari said to him that they both share the same respect for the “autonomous” modern conscience, the pope responded by doubling-down on the primacy of conscience: “I repeat it here. Everyone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them. That would be enough to make the world a better place.”

All the flaky theological currents running through the modern Jesuit order have found an outlet in this pontificate. It is not at all surprising that Francis would be fooling around with the Church’s teaching on hell. The modern Jesuits roll their eyes at old-timey references to the “four last things,” which I guess they would want to reduce down to two, just death and heaven.

A few years back, Jesuit Father Thomas Reese, another one of the pope’s champions, wrote a remarkable column in which he unburdened himself of his disgust for Holy Week, because he finds it all such a boring guilt-trip:

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There is another reason I hate Holy Week, especially Good Friday. When I was a child, we were taught that Jesus had to die for our sins because sin is an infinite insult to God that requires an infinite sacrifice as reparation.

I am sorry, but I don’t think I have ever done anything so bad that it requires me or anyone else to be crucified, let alone Jesus. While I might be grateful to Jesus for taking the blame for my sins, this theology turned God the Father into a legalistic ogre concerned about balancing the scales of justice, not mercy. The Father in this theology sounds nothing like the Father described by Jesus. Alas, some of the liturgical prayers still reflect this theology.

Today, I would rather see the death of Jesus a consequence of his commitment to the mission given to him by his Father, to preach the good news of God’s love for us and our need to respond by loving one another, especially the poor. Jesus, like Oscar Romero, was killed because of what he preached, not because his Father had to be appeased. Jesus is in solidarity with all those who died for justice and human rights.

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The pope’s elimination of the traditional understanding of hell fits into this revised theology of the crucifixion. It reduces Good Friday to something more like Casual Friday, with Jesus Christ not saving us from eternal perdition but from some temporal evil (as determined by the Reeses). No hell - no need for any profound, mysterious act of atonement.

The good in Good Friday came from the stakes of that atonement being so high. But if they are so low, what is the point? Why would the Son of God need to undergo a crucifixion in order to teach us to recycle and hate capitalism, or whatever political meaning Reese is now ascribing to it?

Much of what this pope says is designed not to strengthen the faith but to dilute it. He has told friends that he finds fundamental theology “boring” and that he wishes people would talk about “social justice” more than doctrine. The Vatican will lie and say that he didn’t deny the Church’s teaching on hell. But he did. Scalfari has given us the modernist in full — a pope who cares less about the next world than this one. [See, it all comes back to Bergoglio's unregenerate secularism which he obviously does not think anomalous and unforgivable in a pope! "Let me show that Jesus how wrong he was not to eliminate hunger and poverty from the world! And yet, with the help of the United Nations, I can and will, by 2030! Look at me, Jorge Maria from Buenos Aires, who can and am improving on Jesus's words and deeds. After all, the Holy Spirit now acts and speaks through me. Am I God yet, or what?"]


I didn't have to look far and wide and deep to figure out what's wrong with Bergoglio, and the reason for all the outrageously objectionable anti-Catholic things he says and does, and I've said so from the start. It's his Luciferian hubris - he thinks he can be better than God the Father himself (i.e., he would never have driven out Adam and Eve from Paradise - Tsk, tsk, that wasn't merciful at all, was it? - nor would he have inflicted humanity with all its problems and miseries just because Adam and Eve disobeyed him! "Were you thinking at all, God?... Of course, if I can be better than God the Father, God the Son is an easier challenge. Here, let me edit his words and make them right - omit some sentences and phrases here and there, re-interpret some so that they do not impose a burden on anyone, just be a gentler, kinder Jesus, none of that hell-and-brimfire threatening and unmerciful moral strictures! And yet, and yet, the Spirit speaks to me and through me for our time! See, I told you, in private among just the three of them, the Trinity are not always one, and where it concerns me, the 'Spirit' is clearly on my side. And this is one time where I do welcome the idea of the Catholic three-in-one God!... As for the so-called Church of Christ, why do you think the Spirit is channeling himself through me and leading me to build a church in my image and likeness?" Because, you self-deluding man, the Spirit you are channelling is not the Holy Spirit, Third Person of the Triune God, but the Spirit of Satan, working on you very much as he did on poor Eve. And you're too full of yourself to realize that using you, Satan has been having the best time of his life since he was cast off by God!

Dear Lord, make me wrong about Bergoglio! Just deliver us - your Church and her faithful - from all evil.

Lawrence England waxes indignant but punctiliously logical about Hellgate, and shows the ultimate absurdity of Bergoglio's eschatology, such as it is, and how, if it makes a liar of Jesus who preached about hell in the strongest terms, then what is there for Christians to believe at all? This is, of course, the ultimate implication of Bergoglio's Luciferian hubris that few dare to say. And still no one calls him out for the apostate that he is!

Pope Francis is an incredibly stupid fool!
Offended? Read on...
by Lawrence England

March 30, 2018

“They’re not punished. Those who repent obtain forgiveness and enter the ranks of those who contemplate him, but those who don’t repent and can’t be forgiven disappear. A Hell doesn’t exist, what exists is the disappearance of sinning souls.”

Well, obviously (cough), there's no way the Pope said this. Indeed, given that Eugene Scalfari is so 'creative' with the truth and apparently just makes up his own mind what the Pope has said from memory, having interviewed him, why should we even believe that this interview even took place. If Scalfari isn't a trustworthy reporter of people's quotations, should we even believe the story that this interview happened?

The comings and goings of Vatican communications and denials whenever the Pope gives a controversial interview to Scalfari aside, and putting aside also whether the Pope said it (personally, I don't take anything Francis says seriously now, anyway) it's worth examining what he 'probably/possibly' didn't say just in case he said it. Why? Because it's so stupid. And here is why.

Our Lord Jesus Christ (important religious figure - founded something called the Catholic Church) taught on the doctrine of Hell, more than any of His precursers and those who foreshadowed Him, more than any of the prophets or patriarchs. St John the Baptist taught on this doctrine to the brood of vipers he encountered. He told people to repent in order to avoid it. Presumably, he had some choice words for Herod on this subject. The Apostles taught this doctrine. The Popes taught this doctrine. The Fathers of the Church did. Though private revelation, visionaries and mystics have seen this place of 'encounter'. Our Lady of Fatima came to show the Fatima children Hell and the fate of the damned. There is not a canonised Saint in Heaven who has not believed it.

So...what source would or could a Pope or a simple parish priest cite for this idea that Hell, as taught by Christ, did or does not exist? That is the first question. Oh dear. There isn't any notable figure who has ever taught that. Maybe some Jesuit, somewhere. Maybe the head of the Jesuits, somewhere. He can't even cite Martin Luther for this one. So, this idea is one that he has, shall we say, invented, made up (if he said it)?

Now, here is the bit where it gets very silly indeed. If ever the Faithful were asked to consider the possibility that Hell doesn't exist (don't worry mortal sinners, mafia bosses, genocidal maniacs, cannibalists, pederasts, serial rapists and God-haters), in flat contradiction of 2,000 years of Catholic teaching, then all readers of the above quotation might want to consider why, if Jesus Christ (Who according to the Church's Faith, is God Incarnate) cannot or should not be believed, why on earth should a mere man, Bergoglio, who lays no claim to divinity be believed? [Ah, but Bones, there you err! He has been tacitly laying claim to some sort of 'secular divinity', in his presumptuous premise to 'improve' on Jesus's teachings by openly tampering with his words (and my presumptive premise for him that he thinks God was wrong and completely merciless to have driven Adam and Eve out of Eden, with all the consequences of Original Sin that became humankind's inescapable lot.) If you think you can do better than God, then what do you think you are but SuperGod, not just Jesus 2.0.

For example, if we're going to suggest that Hell doesn't really exist (poor old Satan, rendered homeless by the Pope with not even the smallest cavernous fiery pit to inhabit) that's an interesting proposition and would make for an interesting new teaching. But then if Hell doesn't really exist, why should anyone (including the Holy Father) believe:
(a) the souls of those who die without repentance 'disappear' (pfft /pop/boing)
(b) those who die without repentance cannot be forgiven
(c) those who repent obtain forgiveness
(d) the souls who repent and obtain forgiveness enter the ranks of those who contemplate him

The idea that the souls of those who die without repentance go 'pfft'/ 'pop' / 'boing' is a novel one. Were it to be said by a Pope he alone could claim the citation of it. It's entirely new. But as for statements (b) and (c) and (d) these can be reconciled with Catholic thought and the words of Jesus. So why would any Pope, bishop, or priest, since we've all been to that parish where the priest walks desperately around the edge of the Inferno with a sign saying 'Don't worry, be happy', suddenly wake up one day and maintain that certain parts of the Church's teachings on the afterlife are true but not that part?

How do we decide which parts of Christ's teachings we shall keep and which we shall discard? Oh, sorry! That's what Popes are for! [Not all popes. Just this one, who has had the hubris to directly challenge Christ with every half-truth and lying by omission he makes whenever he misrepresents Scripture] To decide which of the Lord's commandments are worthwhile keeping and which are too medieval for us.

If we're going to alter what we Catholics commonly call 'The Truth As Revealed By God' revealed through His Church, the faithful witness, we are going to make things very difficult for ourselves in explaining to the great mass of humanity both inside and outside the Church why we are retaining some parts of 'The Truth As Revealed By God' but shedding other parts of 'The Truth As Revealed By God'. That makes the Church look less than credible. [Bergoglio is, in fact, the ultimate cafeteria Christian, if we can still think of him as Christian. Remember he shares Hans Kueng's 'I have a dream' of a one-world religion, except that he's making great headway towards accomplishing that via the church of Bergoglio, where Kueng merely wrote and talked about it) - all the while he enjoys the full powers and authority of the Roman Catholic Pope!]

In fact, it makes Catholics look like incredibly stupid fools, who wake up one morning believing in both Heaven and Hell, but the next just inventing some new concept of damnation which is not damnation but disappearance. To where or for how long is not known. What is the nature of this 'non-beingness'. I could do with a nice long lie-in. Is it a bit like that?

If the Church is going to alter 'The Truth As Revealed By God' once, twice, three times an apostate, then there is no point believing anything the Church teaches about anything. If the Church is from God and of God and is Holy and Divine then it is ALL TRUE. If it is not ALL TRUE then there's not much reason to believe any of it.



Of course, we're all hoping (at least, some of you are) that Eugene Scalfari made up this quote because he is a deaf/incompetent/evil/ combination-of-the-three journalist. There would be no Catholic who could believe it if the Pope just made it up, because we don't believe in a made up man-made DIY assembled Faith, but only in Jesus Christ and His Gospel.

Unless, of course, Jorge Bergoglio is going to say one day: 'Well, God (whatever that is) was wrong and I am right because I am God's Representative on Earth, so there, and God, Whose Teachings I disagree with vehemently, told me to tell you this because being I am a living Saint Pope who has a hotline to Him and George Soros and He wants you to believe that I am the new revelation of His mercy, which, BTW, you don't really need because there is no Hell, but still, it would be better to die repentant because Heaven (whatever that is) is nicer than disappearing (whatever that is), but all the same, don't try to convert others because Heaven isn't that great and Hell isn't bad at all.'

Were this seed of Bergoglian (sorry, Scalfarian!) thought to bear fruit in the Church why would anyone want to join that New Religion? The answer is, of course, they wouldn't. They'd go to their local Church of Satan or Humanist Group or Masonic Lodge or Quakers or Unitarians. Or maybe they'd join the Jehovah's Witnesses, because apparently this is precisely what they believe about the afterlife.

Of course, you'll notice that I have dared to call Pope Francis, the Successor of St Peter, the Vicar of Christ, the Visible Head of the Church, an incredibly stupid fool. You're going to tell me that this is very, very uncharitable.
- You're also going to tell me that a very important religious figure whose Death and Resurrection we commemorate and devoutly recall at this time said that it was a very bad thing to call your brother 'a fool', aren't you?
- You're going to tell me that this very important religious figure, Jesus Christ, said that such a person would be in danger of something, aren't you?
- You're going to tell me that Jesus Christ said that anyone who calls his brother 'fool' was in danger of the judgement and of Gehenna, which means Hell, and that this is a place of fiery torment and everlasting agony aren't you? Good.
- As well as the above, you're also going to tell me all of that plus that a man may not do evil that good may result.

Good. I want Pope Francis to tell me that too.

That would clear this latest mess up good and proper. My phone is on and I am waiting for your call, Your Holiness. Please call me urgently and tell me to repent and explain why. Let's do this on Skype, you rabid old lunatic Jesuit, you!

I will record the conversation and publish it on this blog and then this scandal will be put to bed to the glory of God.

Until the next Scalfari interview.

Despite his best efforts, do not let Pope Francis or his erstwhile aged atheist friend and purveyor of 'possibly fake news' spoil the Sacred Triduum and your participation in the central saving mysteries of our glorious and most holy Faith. The latest interview is a clear episode of psychological warfare, timed, as it is for the most sacred time of the Church's year.

At Easter, party like its 2012. Or really any year before. It won't be 2013 forever. One day this pontificate will simply 'disappear'.Boing! Pfft! Pop! Wheeee!

- Jesus Christ did not offer His Body, torn and lacerated, nor pour out His Precious Blood upon the Altar of the Cross to save us from 'disappearing'.
- He did not rise victor from the tomb to vanquish 'non-beingness' but Death and all of Hell.
This is the Church's Faith.

I can't tell you what Pope Francis's faith is or who it is in.

All I can tell you is that, according to his vague commentary on the afterlife, both before and after this 'interview' you apparently have nothing to fear from excommunication. There's no Hell, apparently, so its just a political tool, after all.

May the Lord Jesus by His most sorrowful sufferings, by His unfathomable Death and His most glorious Resurrection, save us from the man sitting at the summit of His Church on Earth, and in His mercy save Pope Francis and the flock entrusted to him, from error, Hell and everlasting death.

Oh, BTW, if Bergoglio thinks impenitent souls will simply disappear, does he omit the phrase 'life everlasting' when he recites the Credo? Life is equally everlasting whether one is condemned to Hell or rewarded in Heaven... Was all his posturing in Fatima during the centenary of the Marian apparitions merely posturing really? For appearance's sake? He thinks the 3 shepherd children merely let their imagination carry them away when they described the vision of Hell that Our Lady showed them? Because surely he cannot believe that Mary, to whom he professes infinite devotion, would have deceived the little innocents about hell for whatever reason? Then he probably never prays the Fatima prayer at the end of each rosary decade when we ask Jesus to 'save us from the fires of hell'.